on cnn, msnbc and other tv and radio outlets. representing the libertarian perspective tonight is mr. tim cavanaugh. tim cavanaugh is a writer and producer for reason magazine and reason tv. he has worked as the online editor of the "l.a. times" and ran the late lamented sex.com. his work has appeared in the "washington post," "the boston globe," slate, the beirut daily star, san francisco magazine, "mother jones," and many, many others. eventually mr. jim and document a spectator and the daily car will be joining us and when he does i will give him a proper introduction. would the gentleman i have a right now i think a good way to get started, so those are three different perspectives, too represented here now, these are for philosophies in the midst of a campaign season, we are left and right and whatever is in between but i suppose that might be libertarian, dictator or influence on this election are outlined the american body politic. i think we should start with you individuals describing what it means to be a liberal. we will start with mr. scher. >> thanks very much for doing this.